Here is some of the gang around the Ratagama. Judith Duff who just can't seem to stay away from a fire. Steve Driver one of Ron's former students and studio potter. Micheal Hunt/Noami Dalglish with family dropped by the firing. Along with them was their new apprentice Jason Hartso. Now this guy is what I feel is on the right track of learning to be a studio potter. He started out working at Winchcombe Pottery in the UK ( Ray Finch and company), where he met my cyber buddy Dan Finnegan. He went to work with Dan for a couple of years. Thru Dan he met Michael and Naomi where he is now working. Does this path not make more sense than borrowing for a university degree? Jason will have the experience of three working potteries. I may be wrong but I think Noami and Micheal are also from a school of taking workshops and then going off to work somewhere. I think if a student offered a fraction of the money they pay for tuition to a potter to apprentice they would get an education that would provide them with the necessary skills to make and market their wares. I am still of the school of thought that that thinks school should prepare you to be gainfully employed. My parents were lower middle class and making a living is deeply engrained in my mindset.