Every making cycle we start with cups. I made some cups with a slip cast handle- diner style. My students were in shock that Mr. Handle would stoop to a slip cast handle. I love those one finger diner cups. On my thrown cups with pulled handles I got a little anxious about slip application and came in a few minutes later to see they had collapsed. Our friend Sylvie gave us hundreds of bottles of underglazes so we have hundreds of glaze tests and a small window of promise for an aesthetic with this e-ware. We're making each cup one of a kind.